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World Cup Final: Holland vs. Spain

MXJSPH

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jacob said:
Boo!

Spain all the way. I wish I was in Spain now, like I was for Euro '08.
I'm going for the Dutch because I know Van P will play, whereas Cesc is on the bench/leaving us. Club loyalties!
 

Merengues

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For me, it has been the WORST World Cup in HISTORY of World Cups, yes even WORSE than 2002!

Hopefully Spain win to make it just that much more better, it feels like i have to wait 8 years instead of 4 years for the next World Cup since this one was so dissapointing.....
 

Merengues

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ASHOOR said:
At this stage, only Brazil could take on Spain and beat them, and Holland is no Brazil,

ASHOOR
HAHAHA, you forgetting that it was HOLLAND that knocked your pathetic Brazil out?

Remember?, Holland did not Panic and played their game after going down 1-0 whilst Brazil choked and Panicked so bad after Holland equalised, so I believe Spain would give Brazil a spanking you would never forget.....
 

davidb

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Merengues said:
For me, it has been the WORST World Cup in HISTORY of World Cups, yes even WORSE than 2002!

Hopefully Spain win to make it just that much more better, it feels like i have to wait 8 years instead of 4 years for the next World Cup since this one was so dissapointing.....

What was so bad about 2002?

 

davidb

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It had goals, passionate supporters and a early exit from England, what more could you want? lol

And how could you forget Ronaldo & Ronaldinho in the same team..
 

Merengues

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davidb said:
It had goals, passionate supporters and a early exit from England, what more could you want? lol

And how could you forget Ronaldo & Ronaldinho in the same team..
Everything you mentioned was soo good, apart from South Koreas BLATANT cheating and of course Brazil winning it....
 

ASHOOR

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Merengues said:
HAHAHA, you forgetting that it was HOLLAND that knocked your pathetic Brazil out?

Remember?, Holland did not Panic and played their game after going down 1-0 whilst Brazil choked and Panicked so bad after Holland equalised, so I believe Spain would give Brazil a spanking you would never forget.....
I beg to differ bro. Putting that one period aside, I think majority of people were seeing Brazil as the potential champions. They were just too good and strong. They were the only team beside Spain that kept so much possession (even against big teams) , defended well and won the game. They had everything going for them.

But thanks to Melo, everything was lost in one period.

ASHOOR
 

ASHOOR

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davidb said:
It had goals, passionate supporters and a early exit from England, what more could you want? lol

And how could you forget Ronaldo & Ronaldinho in the same team..
Absolutely. One of my best world cups ever! That Brazil team with Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho could have probably beaten the Brazil team from 1970 (arguably best soccer team ever assembled)

And you know what is amazing? Romario could have joined them too, but Scolari was stubborn and didn't take him.

ASHOOR
 

Merengues

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Before their game against North Korea yes, after that....double hand-ball goal from Fabiano and a boring 0-0 against Portugal, Brazil only played good against Chile because Brazil are more experienced in this tournamnet than Chile


double hand ball goal from Fabiano and the constant chopping of dutch players in the first 10' of that gameand the way they panicked after Holland equalised....Yeah, now THAT is what i call favourites! lol
 

davidb

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You can't solely blame Melo, Ashoor.

The minute the second half started Brazil didn't look up to it, they looked cocky and probably thought they had it in the bag due to their first half performance. You can't blame Melo for the first goal, and by the time he got sent off, Brazil looked like they had lost the game already.
 

ASHOOR

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davidb said:
You can't solely blame Melo, Ashoor.

The minute the second half started Brazil didn't look up to it, they looked cocky and probably thought they had it in the bag due to their first half performance. You can't blame Melo for the first goal, and by the time he got sent off, Brazil looked like they had lost the game already.
Oh no, he is not the only problem, but his mind just wasn't in it, and that reflected on the whole Brazil team.

No team is perfect, and each has different weaknesses. For Brazil it seems, their weakness was that Dunga didn't prepare them emotionally, or for how to make a come-back (even though they did make a great come-back against a well-prepared US team in the confederation cup: from a 2-0 deficit)

For as far as I can remember in the last two years, Brazil rarely had to come from behind. Now that is to be admired of course, but Dunga should have known that Brazil will not always have the lead. There will come times when you may lose the lead and have to come from behind.

This Brazilian team as well all know, didn't have the individual super stars that it had in 2002 and 2006. They were best as a team. And if Dunga doesn't do his job of preparing them, then the players themselvs can't do much. We saw him lose his temper for the simplest calls, and that reflected on the players.

Trust me, every Brazilian is talking about this: Dunga was a great coach and he brought amazing stability and results to Brazil, but unfortunately his biggest flow cost Brazil the game.

ASHOOR
 

ASHOOR

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Merengues said:
Cant believe you wont admit Brazil were just pure CRAP!, my brazillian friend herself admits it lol
No no, you are speaking in hindsight. Brazil were absolute crap in the second half, I would be a fool to deny that. But throughout the tournament? absolutely not.

Sure they weren't flashy and all that, but that doesn't mean they weren't good enough.

It is funny how even on those forums and blogs where I frequent about Brazil, everyone loving how good they were and getting better after every game. Then after that bad second half, they started saying bad things about Brazil. Took one half to ruin everything good they did in 5 games. But that is the world cup, you have to be ready every minute of every half.

And it is history now.

ASHOOR
 

ASHOOR

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If Spain was to have a very bad second half and lose to Holland, would you consider them a bad team this tournament? bear in mind, Spain has already lost a game and had difficulty beating Paraguay and Chile.

ASHOOR
 
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