Well before the celebration , during the games ALL of them were waving Iraqi flags, and some brought in Assyrian flags (they were told to put them away or else they will get a fine) but they sneaked them in anyway.elevated said:Not surprised. Hopefully less than a quarter of them? Wavering loyalty is such a problem.
privatebenjamin said:I agree. I can't understand the love for Iraqi's team and their flag (the latter part is what irks me!). I don't like how some Assyrians hold their flag all the time. Iraqis never cared about us! Why should we care about them? Such a shame...
My dad dies for Iraqi soccer, as do my sister's in-laws. I don't get it. Granted, if Iraq were versing Iran or Saudi Arabia I'd go for them. Besides that, I really couldn't care less.
I'm not that extreme on this spectrum. Support the Iraq team if you want (not extremely though), but ditch their flag I say.
Oh, with that being said, I'm happy that Australia won the AFC. Assyrians have gotten more recognition by Australia than Iraq ever did in its history.
Rumtaya said:If you support something that in reality never has acknowlegded you, your identity and your rights, then you truly have failed to get a clear understanding and the importance of being anything but positive sided with it.
It might be just a Team, but that Team is conacted to a ideology, language, culture.
Therefore just tell me, do the Boarders of that country match your homeland? Does the language match yours? Does the Flag represent you?
For Assyrians in general its important to not trap into this: Its just a sports team. If Assyrians from other occupied areas support their occupiers (state, culture, religion, flag ...all different that what we are) we will never be able to have our own cause... Our people in the differebt occupied areay of assyria will never be taken seriousky by the int. Communities.... Its very simple either you are 100% Assyrian or not.
Any % you give away (for example supporting your occupier) will put you in a different spot not worth being support and taken seriuosly by the int. Communities. Just take for that mstter the kurds as an example. Iraq kniws clearly that they do not feel raqi... Look where it got them...on the way to independence....
So therefore it might sound anything but harmful supporting a sports Team, in reality it makes you not able to struggle for your cause since you arw wmotionally tied to the occupier...
This. Just this. Sorry for the bump (it isn't even 2 years old), but honestly, this helped my case with Bani.ASHOOR said:I am not going to base my opinion of the team, and whether I like it or not, on the opinion of some religious savages and terrorist, who ironically enough, don't even recognize something called Iraq. To them all it matters is Islam. Iraq means nothing. The religion comes first. When they kick and kill our people (and their own) they are not doing it in the name of the country. They don't even love Iraq. They are doing it in the name of Islam. Be aware of this distinction. I am more than happy to do something that pisses off the terrorists.
ASHOOR said:-When I know ISIS has killed 13 Iraqi teens for watching the Iraqi team play on TV, then I know I am supporting the right team.
-When I know that terrorists have killed hundreds of Iraqis who were out to cheer and celebrate the Iraqi team in public squares, I know I am supporting the right team.
There we go. That's the summary of this thread.TerrenceMalick said:I agree. Although some may take offence to this, but I don't and never have identified as Iraqi. I'm not. I was born in Australia to Assyrian Christian immigrants from Iraq. I'm not of Iraqi descent, nor are my parents, nor were my grandparents. I am of Assyrian descent. And for the love of God, I am not Arab.
I've never supported the Iraqi team and never will. I support my country, Australia.
Qi?ta said:There we go. That's the summary of this thread.
Diaspora identifies with their countries of origin and I don't see anything bad with that.
It would be a dream to have our own state, but that's not happening. Not in this universe's middle east. I'm Iraqi Ashuraya and I'd be damned if we had to bend our knee to the kurds to achieve autonomy.
So yes, I rather support Iraq in its moribund state. And no, I don't appreciate foreigners bashing on my country.
I rather it stays united, at least centre and north. Iraq encompasses the entirety of bet nahrain.