There are several biships including the bishop of Mosul and I know of 3 in real life who are real redheads. One of which is a relative and my mother and grandmother both inherited some redness in their brown hair and freckles. I myself got the freckles (in the face in the summer) on very pale skin and some redness in my facial hair. Just wondering if anybody else knows of any ginger Assyrians and the history behind this? I don't know where this penotype originated but I'm wondering how it got into the middle east.
Red hair/ginger Assyrians
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Cascade
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Our neighbor, who was Chaldean, had red hair. She was very pale. She has a couple of children and none possess red hair, paleness nor freckles. They were all dark like their father. Another was one in elementary school in my class. Though unlike other redheads, she had bronze/olive skin. Very strange.
There is a theory that red hair actually evolved in the middle east 5000 years ago, where it dispersed into the Caucasus and Europe.
There is a theory that red hair actually evolved in the middle east 5000 years ago, where it dispersed into the Caucasus and Europe.
Assyrian_Man
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I also know some ginger Assyrians, two of my friends are. One Western and one Eastern :biggrin:
Brata_Shleeta
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Hey Joe,
where i live i had seen a little assyrian girl, light skin and ginger hair!! why is it called ginger tho i prefer to call it orange since its orange and not red or ginger lool.
her sister was normal and so were her parents.
i know another one also who is an older girl in her 20's or something shes ginger. some assyrians have dark hair like me but in the sun we may see shades of red or orange and my dad said maybe an ancestor had lighter hair like that XD
where i live i had seen a little assyrian girl, light skin and ginger hair!! why is it called ginger tho i prefer to call it orange since its orange and not red or ginger lool.
her sister was normal and so were her parents.
i know another one also who is an older girl in her 20's or something shes ginger. some assyrians have dark hair like me but in the sun we may see shades of red or orange and my dad said maybe an ancestor had lighter hair like that XD
Cascade
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http://www.eupedia.com/genetics/origins_of_red_hair.shtmlJoe25 said:
Scroll down to "Where did red hair first arise?".
Assyrian_Man
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thomator said:
Are you?
Neon said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the chaldeans became catholic after the crusaders came (Don't know who, Byzantines or whatever - lol, my memory is so poor!)? Maybe that's a factor? i.e intermixing with Europeans.
I read somewhere on a forum that Izzat Al-Douri was an Assyrian before converting to Islam, and he was a red-head
Not sure if that's a fact though, people were just discussing it.ins001 said:
Well, then I guess we will never justify how they got their coloured eyes and hair from! Do you guys know why they called their church "Chaldean"? and when the conflict over ethnicities started? I've been reading alot about the conflicts and only the Assyrian argument makes sense to me compared to Chaldean and Aramean.
Etain
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http://www.learnassyrian.com/aramaic.pdfGoogoo said:
"Chaldea of antiquity was a tribe of Babylon and was the last dynasty of
the Babylonian empire. In modern times, Chaldean is a misnomer for Assyrian Catholic"
The ancient Chaldeans were known for their advancements in astronomy. There is a Latin word from Chaldean that has to do with astronomy.I forget it though.
Cascade
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I've been told by a Chaldean man, who looks rather Nordic, that Romans interbred with some of them when they converted to Catholicism, hence the reason why some of them are so light. But then again, Romans are modern day Italians (if I'm not mistaken) and the average Italian is not light-haired and blue eyed. Italians would usually look like, say, James Franco and Sandra Bullock on average (slightly olive skinned with dark eyes). So how the hell did Chaldeans manage to get Nordic features when those they allegedly bred with were hardly Nordic looking? Maybe the Romans were made up of folks of British origins back then (a la, "Roman Britain")? I don't get it. :huh:Googoo said:
mrzurnaci
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Neon said:
Alot of it is actually the other way around.
During the Roman empire, a good number of Arameans and Assyrians migrated to Rome.
Not only that but it was also Assyrian who invented Catholicism by bring Catholic ideas (like Mary being the mother of God) to the Roman church.
Brata_Shleeta
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oh and i also thought of another assyrian guy in london who seems to have gingerish hair and really light skin [i think he's full assyrian tho apart from his uncle who might be english or maybe its just his name thats english.....] just thought id add this haha