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Maloula ASSYRIANS?

Nemrud

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Classical Syriac
Ashurian Aramaic
Central Neo-Aramaic
Northeastern Neo-Aramaic
Mandaic

These are all eastern aramaic with turoyo and assyrian with it. If we are assyrians because of the language then mandeans can be it to.....
 

mrzurnaci

New member
Nemrud said:
Classical Syriac
Ashurian Aramaic
Central Neo-Aramaic
Northeastern Neo-Aramaic
Mandaic

These are all eastern aramaic with turoyo and assyrian with it. If we are assyrians because of the language then mandeans can be it to.....
Mandeans were originally not Assyrian, it's possible they became Assyrian over the centuries.
Another idea I have is maybe the Mandeans we know today are Assyrians who converted to Manda'ism.
 

Nemrud

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But WHY are we West and East assyrians, is it because we call ourselves suroyo/suraya and our language suraya = syriac=assyrian? Syriac was one East Aramaic developed from the neo assyrian empire, While the West Aramaic of the Arameans are Almost extinct, the East Aramaic is dominant of the Assyrians and other Peoples?

Subdivisions
Assyrian Neo-Aramaic
Lishanid Noshan
Bohtan Neo-Aramaic
Barzani Jewish Neo-Aramaic
Chaldean Neo-Aramaic
H?rtevin
Hulaul?
Koy Sanjaq Surat
Lishana Deni
Senaya
Lish?n Did?n
Jewish Assyrian Neo-Aramaic

These languages are all northeastern neoaramaic, East assyrian is among it. We must not forget that the Assyrian empire Made Aramaic its official language so we cant say we are the Only people that speak eastern Aramaic, There May be other people in Mesopotamia that spoke it. The language cant make us assyrians, even if it is part of it, There are even Jews that speak eastern Aramaic.
 

mrzurnaci

New member
Nemrud said:
But WHY are we West and East assyrians, is it because we call ourselves suroyo/suraya and our language suraya = syriac=assyrian? Syriac was one East Aramaic developed from the neo assyrian empire, While the West Aramaic of the Arameans are Almost extinct, the East Aramaic is dominant of the Assyrians and other Peoples?

Subdivisions
Assyrian Neo-Aramaic
Lishanid Noshan
Bohtan Neo-Aramaic
Barzani Jewish Neo-Aramaic
Chaldean Neo-Aramaic
H?rtevin
Hulaul?
Koy Sanjaq Surat
Lishana Deni
Senaya
Lish?n Did?n
Jewish Assyrian Neo-Aramaic

These languages are all northeastern neoaramaic, East assyrian is among it. We must not forget that the Assyrian empire Made Aramaic its official language so we cant say we are the Only people that speak eastern Aramaic, There May be other people in Mesopotamia that spoke it. The language cant make us assyrians, even if it is part of it, There are even Jews that speak eastern Aramaic.
who else speaks Eastern Aramaic other than Mandeans? Mandeans number only 70K
 

Nemrud

New member
If we ever had a country our language should be called assyrian Aramaic, "Assyrian" for we are assyrians and speak East Aramaic, and aramaic cause we speak it.

We should be happy that everytime someone mention the oldest living languages, they mention Aramaic in the top 10.
 

mrzurnaci

New member
Nemrud said:
If we ever had a country our language should be called assyrian Aramaic, "Assyrian" for we are assyrians and speak East Aramaic, and aramaic cause we speak it.

We should be happy that everytime someone mention the oldest living languages, they mention Aramaic in the top 10.
So Syriac then lol? Syriac is the name denoting Eastern Aramaic because every other Eastern Aramaic dialect from that time is extinct. All modern eastern Aramaic dialects derive from Syriac + other obscure dialects.
 

Nemrud

New member
mrzurnaci said:
So Syriac then lol? Syriac is the name denoting Eastern Aramaic because every other Eastern Aramaic dialect from that time is extinct. All modern eastern Aramaic dialects derive from Syriac + other obscure dialects.
People doesnt know what syriac is, Only assyrian and The famous Aramaic. Also, l would like to have the name Aramaic, because its famous.
 

Nemrud

New member
I dont think suroyo/suraya means assyrian because maloula people call themselves suroy.... But l do believe they are Arameans and we are assyrians.
 

mrzurnaci

New member
Nemrud said:
I dont think suroyo/suraya means assyrian because maloula people call themselves suroy.... But l do believe they are Arameans and we are assyrians.
suroy/suroyo/suraya is an alternative or short form of "suryaya/suryoyo" which means "Syrian".

 
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