Ezidi Kurd said:What you fail to understand is that Kurdistan was never 'Assyria'. Kurdistan has always been populated by West Iranian people and not Afro Asian Semitic people. Kurdstan has alwasy been home for West Iranian race, since the ancient times of Ubaid Sumerians. That's why Semites nor Turco Mongoloids will never get Kurdistan.
Now you are attacking the Kurds here because you are insulted over Newroz. Get a life!
nejepnerast said:Let me see ..... Assyrian are at the verge of extinction and kurds are bombarded left and right and you guys are fighting about which one of your savage ancestors shat on this land first . The worst kind of problems are the one that makes you laugh .
Nemrud said:Actually the Kurds are The nicest Muslims, even if they murdered us in for example wwi, but thats because they thought they would get a country if they helped the turks eliminating us.
Nemrud said:the funny is that kurds think they deserve a country and are brainwashing their children into believeing that,
Why did kurd object to the establishment of any nation ?Nemrud said:hello! their are other northwestern iranians, you are not the only one, they also deserve a country, actually you should all be called medes instead of the names you have, because median was the first northwestern iranian language.
nejepnerast said:Kurds are just a tool for arabs and turks ,persians always have been which is not an excuse , but given a chance Assyrian would have mascaraed the kurds too , but they were abandoned by the British . We are just a bunch of stupid people being used by the more powerful nation .
mrzurnaci said:Because most Kurds are dumb and uneducated thanks to crappy Middle Eastern civilization, Arabs and the Assyrians living near you as well.
Dumb people are easier to control and defeat in wars which explains why Turkey doesn't improve Eastern Turkey.
mrzurnaci said:Massacres don't happen for no reason, why would Assyrians massacre Kurds unless you were to give us a reason to do so?
mrzurnaci said:Kurds were abandoned as well and so were Arabs. Everybody was abandoned because earlier promises like Sykes-Picot were more important than new ones.
mrzurnaci said:Population size does not make a country and population size does not matter for a country. If population size mattered, Liechtenstein wouldn't exist
mrzurnaci said:Secondly, Turkey Iran Syria and Iraq would rather fight and kill Kurds in a war than give you a country as they do not want to lose land, population, and resources that could potentially hurt the countries.
mrzurnaci said:Iran doesn't want to lose the Kurdish population and its land with Hamadan.
Iraq doesn't want to lose oil fields that could be used to bribe, err I mean launder, err I mean "fund" other projects for itself.
Syria doesn't want to lose population centers which is why Assad conceded to give Rojava self-rule. To Assad, losing population means losing contributers to society such as teachers, builders, soldiers, etc.
Turkey doesn't want to lose "Turkish Kurdistan" or else they lose the regional hegemony they have over Syria and Iraq by controlling the mountains that feed the Mesopotamian river system; not only that but losing Eastern Turkey also removes a huge chunk of population that could sway elections.
mrzurnaci said:We're likely not going to have a country which is why we're making a compromise to have autonomy instead. Assyrians have survived for 2600 years on autonomy alone. The Persian empires allowed us to live and have our own laws provided we at least pay the imperial taxes.
Also, Nemrud has a point, there are many other Iranic groups that are different from Persians like Luris and Balochis.
nejepnerast said:You are no better my friend , in fact i think you are a bit worst . The only difference i see between kurds and Assyrian is that assyrian drink more and gamble more .
You are too simplistic and i feel bad stating the obvious . "Why would Kurd massacre Assyrian unless you were to give us a reason to do so?"
Can you see the circle now ? Your problem is that you truely believe you are/were right and there is no other way around it . THE TRUTH my friend is subjective and everything is Relative and nothing is absolute ......well may except Vodka absolut
Agreed on kurds and i did not say otherwise . But at least the Arabs got their countries . I think the Assyrian and Armenian got the short end of the stick . left alone among muslims with Zero support just to appease the arabs and turks .
I totally support Tamil's rights , what is your point ?
Mrzurnaci you know i'm not too educated , so go easy on me with big names . As far as I know it is called Principality of Liechtenstein which i believe i part of germany . Countries my friend are established by money and sheer power . Just look at turkey and read their history and you will know what i'm saying . By the way if you have enough money I promise i will establish Assyrian country for you myself .
nothing new here and they pay kurds too to act as a proxy against their neighbors .
Nothing new here .
lolol you made me laugh , because everyone one here is asking us to go back to Iran and now iran is good for Assyrian ? I will be honest with you and i'm saying that with the highest respect . Assyrian are too small to be hated or loved . Frankly No one cares wether they exist or no .
mrzurnaci said:Well that does make more sense, drinking and gambling aren't considered major sins except for Muslims and even then Muslims have BIGGER problems to worry about...
maybe I just should just admit what I've been saying for years, everybody is f***ing stupid.
mrzurnaci said:And what reason was for Kurds to massacre Assyrians? Because Ottomans told you to do it and you get land + property for free.
mrzurnaci said:Arabs got countries that were designed to weaken them so any superpower could easily bully them.
mrzurnaci said:Secondly, Turks already defeated the Brits militarily so Brits had no choice but to concede.
ses.nejepnerast said:I did not mean it as an insult or a negative thing , i hope you understand that .
nejepnerast said:I think we agreed that kurds were stupid and frankly my ancestors were the dumbest . They ran after Turkish Aghas and listened to Mother ****en mullahs and Assyrian and Armenian in the same token bended for the English who fooled them using religion . We were all (kurds, assyrian , armenian ) just proxies for the big powers and we all ended up with nothing . Do you see how stupid we were ?
nejepnerast said:still , they got something and mostly doing fairly well .
nejepnerast said:it was the other way around , remember the ottoman empire was defeated by the british with arabs as proxies .
Frankly, I think that was done on purpose. The Ottomans only kept Western Anatolia truly modernized while Eastern half, Mesopotamia, and rest of Middle East was primitive.
true but do I need to mention the KRG and Eastern Syria? After a while, Kurds still got something (autonomy)... Yea it's not the same as having your own country but you still have your own government, learn your own language, etc.
We Assyrians have gotten absolutely NO-THING after 100 years since Ottomans...
In the grand scheme of things, that's bullsh**!
I think considering all this time, we should get the part of the map that's dark green since that is the Assyrian heartlands.
I'm talking about the Turkish war of independence when Turkish military regrouped and retook borders that eventually became modern Turkey.