Neon said:I actually like Arabic hymns.
I agree and I'm being as objective as I can be. I was never a fan of western folk music. However, Spanish and Russian music may be "western", but they do sound good (they have that "exotic" flavour).Etain said:Middle Eastern music is so much better than western lol
Neon said:I agree and I'm being as objective as I can be. I was never a fan of western folk music. However, Spanish and Russian music may be "western", but they do sound good (they have that "exotic" flavour).
The most bland folk music in the West is Irish and Scottish. *shivers*
But then again, Celtic music still use (a rather over-exploited) chord progression (or a musical mode) commonly associated with American/English pop music (Ionian, Aeolian), hence the "insipidness". Their chords are usually no different to say, Imagine by John Lennon. Don't get me wrong, they still make nice lively music (if a bit blander than the rest), but they're very "standard pop-ish", chords-wise:Etain said:What I like about Middle Eastern music is it never "sold out" or changed much from what it was a thousand years ago. It still has the distinct notes, anyone can listen to it and recognize the region it comes from. Compare that to pop music in East Asia that sounds exactly like ours(American) because the Koreans and Japs copied out style.
I actually like Celtic music, I don't think it's too bland.
Neon said:But then again, Celtic music still use (a rather over-exploited) chord progression (or a musical mode) commonly associated with American/English pop music (Ionian, Aeolian), hence the "insipidness". Their chords are usually no different to say, Imagine by John Lennon. Don't get me wrong, they still make nice lively music (if a bit blander than the rest), but they're very "standard pop-ish", chords-wise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3xeTpgLP5o
Middle Eastern music is usually either in harmonic minor or Phrygian (these two give off that, distinct "exotic" sound). Romanian gypsy and Indian music also have their own distinct notes too. Thus they would "stand out" too.
Yep. And that's why Celtic music will never sound "distinct" or "exotic" to my ears.Etain said:It makes sense. American music , especially country, is descended from Celtic music.
Why does the West Assyrian dialect sound so different!?Asshur said:West Assyrian dialect: THIS IS GOOD. Just take 5 min to listen to these ^^
I know that this is a controversial topic -- if Western Aramaic is a dialect or a language. But you can safely say that Western Neo-Aramaic (Turoyo for instance) is a discrete language. I can't fathom how Turoyo is a dialect when 85% of it is unintelligible (and I speak Assyrian very well).ins001 said:Why does the West Assyrian dialect sound so different!?
sounds like a completely different language
Neon said:I know that this is a controversial topic -- if Western Aramaic is a dialect or a language. But you can safely say that Western Neo-Aramaic (Turoyo for instance) is a discrete language. I can't fathom how Turoyo is a dialect when 85% of it is unintelligible (and I speak Assyrian very well).
I never liked how Assyrian and Turoyo are considered Syriac "dialects". Yes, these varieties are Syriac (just the same way English is Germanic), but they're Syriac languages, rather than Syriac "dialects". What is an Assyrian dialect? Chaldean (although some consider that its own language), Urmian, Tyari, Jelu and Barwar. I believe that Western Aramaic (Turoyo) also has differing dialects?
You can say that. Hebrews pronounce their A's and Kh's, like we do. In Turoyo, the A's are O's and Kh's are guttural H's.ins001 said:I swear Biblical Hebrew is more comprehensible than Turoyo
Don't forget that rigid QA noise they keep makingNeon said:You can say that. Hebrews pronounce their A's and Kh's, like we do. In Turoyo, the A's are O's and Kh's are guttural H's.
If you hear Turoyo spoken quietly in the next room you could easily mistake it for Arabic. Thanks to their guttural consonants, they'll sound close to Arabic. Assyrian Neo-Aramaic sounds somewhat distinct to Arabic (since we don't have guttural A's and H's).
When foreigners hear me speak Assyrian they'd think it's Persian or Hebrew. I'd wager that if they hear Western Aramaic their first guess would be Arabic. :mrgreen:
What do you mean? Lolins001 said:Don't forget that rigid QA noise they keep making
yesNeon said:What do you mean? Lol
As in they say "qa" a lot?
I dunno, I'd say that Eastern Assyrians say "qa" ("for") a lot.ins001 said:
I say "ta".Neon said:I dunno, I'd say that Eastern Assyrians say "qa" ("for") a lot.
What does the Western "qa" mean though? And how is it exactly pronounced? Like our qa?
Sha? You're a Tyaraya huh? :mrgreen: Girasnaya I take it? Lol...My maternal grandfather's side speak that way and they were hard to understand. They have a thick accent with a drawl. But I can still understand them to a fair degree.ins001 said:I say "ta".
Your probably thinking, if I say "ta" for "for", then what do I say for "come", I say "sha".
No, I'm WaltonayaNeon said:Sha? You're a Tyaraya huh? :mrgreen: Girasnaya I take it? Lol...My maternal grandfather's side speak that way and they were hard to understand. They have a thick accent with a drawl. But I can still understand them to a fair degree.
"Sha akha khowwneee, ehka zeeelookh?" - how they sound like.
Interesting. Never heard of that milat. A couple of questions...ins001 said:No, I'm Waltonaya
That sentence would have been;
"Sha lakha khoni, eeka kheeshlokh"
Your not the first one who has never heard of the milat. I believe it must be the milat with one of the lowest populations.Neon said:Interesting. Never heard of that milat. A couple of questions...
So you elongate the 'i' in khishlookh to make it sound like kheeshlokh? And do you make the "O" in tora (cow) sound like "ow" - tow-ra? (as heard in bowler)?
How do you say house - beta, betha or besha?
Lol so you're the milat with the Shhhh...Tyareh's are the milat with Th's....And Urmians with Ch's and V's. :mrgreen:ins001 said:Your not the first one who has never heard of the milat. I believe it must be the milat with one of the lowest populations.
no, I guess khishlook is what it more sounds like.
I say tora
house is besha
Cousins have made fun of how our milat speaks with the following sentence:
"Shelle l'besha o moshelle ktasha, ooof, koola SHH go milat waltonaye"