A NEW WAR

[Whatever]

If Hezbollah were bankrolled to the tune of millions and millions of American dollars they would hide behind no one as well. What a ridiculous statement to make. Freedom fighters, terrorists, whatever you want to call them, fight guerilla warfare because this is the only way they can fight.

And please understand i am not condoning what either side does. I will not however accept that there is only one evil in this war. Israel is as much responsible as anyone else. Until this is accepted and t hey are forced, by global means (well by the US because they ignore what the UN say to them) to adhere to peaceful resolutions. To stop occupying land that is not theirs, there will be no resolution and we will be the ones to suffer.

 

[Whatever]

By the way, you should stop with the emotive talk of the world becoming Islam. Its hysterical nonsense designed to create fear in the masses to control them.

 

[RadRides]

By the way, you should stop with the emotive talk of the world becoming Islam. Its hysterical nonsense designed to create fear in the masses to control them.

That's why France, Britain, Spain, and parts of the EU populations of Muslims are on the rise.  I can understand your reasoning.  The UK media has always been against US foreign policy, they ridicule Tony Blair, and are so far on the left of things, they can't wipe their own arses.  The US is just as lucky to have morons complain and bark like the BBC and other's.  Oh well, we'll never agree.  :bigarmhug:

 

[Whatever]

By the way, you should stop with the emotive talk of the world becoming Islam. Its hysterical nonsense designed to create fear in the masses to control them.

That's why France, Britain, Spain, and parts of the EU populations of Muslims are on the rise.  I can understand your reasoning.  The UK media has always been against US foreign policy, they ridicule Tony Blair, and are so far on the left of things, they can't wipe their own arses.  The US is just as lucky to have morons complain and bark like the BBC and other's.  Oh well, we'll never agree.  :bigarmhug:

You clearly don't talk from experiencing our media. They are not left wing at all. Read my post a few posts above. We have very few who directly critcise Israel. We do however have a general public that perhaps doesn't swallow propganda like the Americans do. If you're grateful for media like the digustingly right wing Fox then i pity you.

Anyway i shall leave it for tonight as it's getting late.

 

[Sheik Abdul Bin Fallafel]

Radrides hit it EXACTLY on the head.

Why is france leading this international coalition force with Italy in the mix of things as well?

Was there not a riot in France recently in where thousands of young muslim men who were not able to find work and were upset at the government completely torched and ruined Paris and held france under seige for like a month?

I did a quick search and found this article.
http://www.montanasnews.com/articles.php?mode=view&id=2884

The rest of the world is realizing this is not just a Israel VS radical Islam problem.... it's a worldwide problem not because Muslim people are immigrating in mass numbers to western countries, but because the RADICAL elements of islam is coming with them.

 

[Whatever]

I don't wish to offend you Born but you're so obssessed with crowing about how muslim extremists and how they will take over the world - keep shouting it at me as you can't see anything else so i'm going to leave it because in all your posts you have had minimal fact and maximum emotive rhetoric with absolutely no basis.

I know very well about the Paris riots but thanks for the link. There is social unrest in many countries, with many religions. The fighting in Paris was not because of religion but because of the social standing of many young Parisians - lack of jobs, discrimination etc. Them being Muslim was secondary, not the primary reason but keep seeing what you want to see.

You're reactionary, extreme and hysterical. Just how your government want you. God forbid you ever inform yourself in a rational, non-biased matter and think for yourself rather than falling for the climate of fear and prejudice that the media have created.

 

[Sheik Abdul Bin Fallafel]

.... and until you open your eyes and see what's really going on, there is no convinving you either   How many bombs will have to explode in your subways .... how many planes have to be crashed for you to realize the radical islamic movement has come to your town and is spreading worldwide? You are the one that needs a history lesson. These people have been fighting for over a thousand years, this is not a new phenomenon. History records 2-3 dark periods of the Koran where these "holy texts" had dissapeared and no one knew where they were, depending who you ask. Many historians believe that today's modern Koran has been manipulated by various dictators at the time, and seeded with violent materials in order incite riot and force obedience. The Koran is not a book of peace, it is a book of violence and control.

Spend some time on this website: http://prophetofdoom.net/

Tabari IX:69  ?Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us.?

Qur?an 2:191  ?And kill them wherever you find and catch them. Drive them out from where they have turned you out; for Al-Fitnah (polytheism, disbelief, oppression) is worse than slaughter.?

Tabari VII:97  ?The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, ?Kill any Jew who falls under your power.??

Bukhari:V1B1N6  ?Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.?

YOU are the one that needs to become educated, to read history, read how and why these people justify murder, and that they've murdered and pillaged MILLIONS over the years, many christians and jews in the name of allah. These people only know one way to live --- force Islam on others or murder them. They can not live peacefully with anyone who is not muslim. They can not even live peacefully with other muslisms.

 

[MXJSPH]

 

[charlie]

Mjay

Which ones Bush the smoking monkey or the grinning monkey?

:mrgreen:

 

[charlie]

This Islamaphobia being spread by the media and governments is a joke.
They did the same with communism in the 50's and sixties, with the domino theory and the rest of the crap they went on about.

They had people thinking that they were on the verge of being attacked by Russia, and even ran duck and cover commercials, like getting under a desk was gonna protect you in the case of a thermonuclear war, give me a break, and people really bought into that bullsh*t.

Now communism isn't a threat they've created a new one in "radical islam", "terrorism", and they give everything a catchy title "operation freedom", "infinite justice".
They sound like ready made film titles for Shwarzenegger or Segal or someone.

The world has been living with the threat of terrorism for decades upon decades, planes were regularly being hijacked and blown up back in the 70's and 80's.
So are we to believe that this is a new phenomenon thats just gripped us.
Come on.

Yes there are terrorists out there, yes they will no doubt strike again.

While were on the subject of history look back at history and you will see, In the end the only way Al Qaeda or whoever else is out there will be stopped is when the Government of the US or some intermediary on their behalf sits down and does a deal or negotiates with them.
It happened with the ANC, the South African Government were adamant they wouldnt negotiate with them because they were a terrorist organisation, it happened with the IRA, the British Government were adamant they wouldnt negotiate with them they were a terrorist organisation, it even happened with the PLO Israel's most hated terrorist group at one time now reffered to as a "partner for peace".
Even the Libyans, Colnel Gaddaffi was as hated by the US and Britain as Osama Bin Laden, now the West are doing ready to open up and do business with him.

If you want to know how Al Qaeda will be defeated, there it is.
It's niave to think otherwise.
As for terrorism that will never end as long as there are people, someone will have a grudge.
:mrgreen:

 

[Sheik Abdul Bin Fallafel]

islamaphobia? you of all poeple should know better. you're assyrian are you not? the middle east was a majority of christians and now it is a majority of islam... they didn't "convert" us by going around and knocking on doors and asking us if we know who god is like those jehova witness robots do.... they did it by telling people they either had to accept islam or be murdered --- of course not before raping and torturing them first....

since when have muslisms been peaceful? since when have the islamic people been tolerant of other cultures and religions? for god sakes these people (animals I call them) can't even get along with eachother... one sect of islam fighting another.... all they know how to do is fight and cause more misery and destruction.... the reason lebanon was able to form some sort of stable democracy in the first place is because people there are not fanatics and there is a mix of all cultures....

if aliens ever invaded our planet, i hope they land in the middle east ---- at least humanity would have a fighting chance....  then again if i had the choice of becoming an alien slave or a muslim, i'd take the first shuttle over to the mothership myself.